Ok, off topic, but am I the only one that finds a preacher wearing a t-shirt with an image of Jesus DJing offensive? Aren't there enough caricatures of Jesus out there? Do we really need to promote them? Do we really need to help make Jesus a joke in popular culture? And before you start to say I'm being legalistic and stuffy, what about the Lord's prayer? Isn't our first command to pray that His name would be hallowed? Shouldn't we begin by doing that with how we present Him? Can't we be relevant to culture without furthering the caricature of Jesus? Thoughts?
This is such a great Gospel presentation! Oh, that all preachers who claim to be Christian would actually *preach the Gospel* so clearly in their sermons! Thank you, God, for Mark Driscoll's faithfulness to the Gospel of salvation by grace, through faith, in Jesus Christ alone!
Now, to John's concern: I agree. It is not respectful to for *any* Christian, let alone a pastor preaching to a congregation, to wear a T-shirt depicting Jesus as a DJ. There is obviously nothing *wrong* with being a DJ, but... we are talking about our Lord and Savior here! *If* He is to be depicted in images at all (and I have some *serious* misgivings about that, considering that 1. Scripture does not tell us much about what He looked like, and 2. He is often depicted as being of an ethnicity other than His actual one), then He should be depicted reverently, and not as a cartoonish DJ.
Still, this is a great Gospel presentation, in and of itself. I was edified and moved by it. I praise God for how He is using Mark Driscoll, even as I disagree with *some* of his ministry methodology.
Seth: I don't hear any modalism in Driscoll's presentation. God did enter human history (in the way in which we speak of time and human events) in the Person of Jesus Christ. I don't see anything approaching modalism here.
Seth, one clarification to what I wrote above: I could be wrong, but listening to the presentation twice, I didn't hear Driscoll saying that the *Father* became the Son in the Incarnation but rather, that God became man. Did I mishear or misunderstand Driscoll's point there? Surely it is not modalism to say that God became man in Jesus Christ? Not *sinful* man, certainly, but still man while remaining fully God.
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Amen!!!!
Ok, off topic, but am I the only one that finds a preacher wearing a t-shirt with an image of Jesus DJing offensive? Aren't there enough caricatures of Jesus out there? Do we really need to promote them? Do we really need to help make Jesus a joke in popular culture? And before you start to say I'm being legalistic and stuffy, what about the Lord's prayer? Isn't our first command to pray that His name would be hallowed? Shouldn't we begin by doing that with how we present Him? Can't we be relevant to culture without furthering the caricature of Jesus? Thoughts?
One cavil, besides the t-shirt.
One God, three persons. The Word Became Flesh, not the Father. Not modalism.
I understand that its just easier for the sake of time to just cliff note the Trinity, but it is indeed worth it.
This is such a great Gospel presentation! Oh, that all preachers who claim to be Christian would actually *preach the Gospel* so clearly in their sermons! Thank you, God, for Mark Driscoll's faithfulness to the Gospel of salvation by grace, through faith, in Jesus Christ alone!
Now, to John's concern: I agree. It is not respectful to for *any* Christian, let alone a pastor preaching to a congregation, to wear a T-shirt depicting Jesus as a DJ. There is obviously nothing *wrong* with being a DJ, but... we are talking about our Lord and Savior here! *If* He is to be depicted in images at all (and I have some *serious* misgivings about that, considering that 1. Scripture does not tell us much about what He looked like, and 2. He is often depicted as being of an ethnicity other than His actual one), then He should be depicted reverently, and not as a cartoonish DJ.
Still, this is a great Gospel presentation, in and of itself. I was edified and moved by it. I praise God for how He is using Mark Driscoll, even as I disagree with *some* of his ministry methodology.
Seth: I don't hear any modalism in Driscoll's presentation. God did enter human history (in the way in which we speak of time and human events) in the Person of Jesus Christ. I don't see anything approaching modalism here.
Small correction: I meant to type, "It is not respectful for *any* Christian..." (didn't mean to have the "to" in there)
Seth, one clarification to what I wrote above: I could be wrong, but listening to the presentation twice, I didn't hear Driscoll saying that the *Father* became the Son in the Incarnation but rather, that God became man. Did I mishear or misunderstand Driscoll's point there? Surely it is not modalism to say that God became man in Jesus Christ? Not *sinful* man, certainly, but still man while remaining fully God.
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