Here are some of the quotes from this interchange:
Keith Olbermann: Keep religious advocacy out of public life since the worst example of that are jihadists.It is important to ask a simply question when someone makes a claim like this: Why?
Keith Olbermann: Is it not in the interest of people of faith to avoid this kind of public proselytizing? The smart ones get that is just makes them look bad no matter what the thought might be.
Dan Savage: Smart people of faith set an example through their lives. They don't go on Fox News and lecture other people.
Why should Brit Hume not speak his view? The answer usually is that people should keep their religious views to themselves. But what are religious views? They are simply statements of belief. So if we shouldn't communicate our own statements of belief then what about the statements of belief purported by the two men in the clip above? Why should they be allowed to communicate their beliefs?
If we are truly to keep "religious advocacy out of public life" than why is Keith advocating his view that is undergirded by a certain worldview.
Is Keith not doing his own type of proselytizing (which is simply trying to convince another of your view) when he says that Hume should not proselytize?
If people are not to go on Fox News and lecture other people about matters of belief, why is Dan Savage going on MSNBC and lecturing Brit Hume about his beliefs? Is not Dan Savage lecturing Hume based on his personal beliefs?
Their statements of these two men simply do not stand because they refute themselves as they speak. The rules have to go both ways. They can't just apply to those with whom you agree. If Brit can't state his view, then they shouldn't be allowed to either.
FYI -
I don't really care that much about political TV. Aside from abortion issues, I care very little about politics in general. It all just seems like a big popularity and power contest. I have very little hope in it no matter who is in office. So please know that a critique of Keith Olberman and his guest does NOT equate to me frothing at the mouth as I cheer on Bill O'Reily every night at 7pm.
3 comments:
Amen. I like Brit a lot, and I like him even more after this episode. You knew he would be attacked for it. Leave it Olbermann to do it. That guy is a joke though and his network is tanking. The ratings show that people appreciate the freedom of speech that FoxNews appears to embrace rather than the hubris of MSNBC.
Great point, Z. I deal with this all the time in Japan. How is it non-religious to have a belief set that eliminates God? Somehow people think they don't need faith to be atheists. They make fools of themselves.
Z, i love that this came up right along with your Tactics quotes... We need to learn how to think about these statements. Exactly to your pont and Mark and Maki's point: it's a mistake that all secular agnostics/athiests make - that somehow their view is *neutral* and belief and faith aren't a part it.
Not exactly the same, but related, ...this reminds me of something Greg Koukl says all the time when confronted with "Don't push your views on me." His response, "If you don't think people should push their views, then why are you pushing your view on me right now?"
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